shame those internet service providers. boycott them. go out in your community and say, listen, we're not going to allow you to do this anymore to us, to americans. now, can they go overseas and do it as well? yes, they can. but if we want to make it harder, we can. at the same time, though, we have to understand and we don't hear about it a lot ask we should talk about it more, the federal government is attempting to disrupt when they think necessary these types of sites. >> steve: good. >> sometimes, though, sometimes actionable intelligence can be gained. there was testimony by professor mcneil of pepperdine law school yesterday at this hearing in washington, everybody should read it. there is the capacity, there is the ability for us to act. let's rely on the f.b.i., let's rely on the c.i.a., let's rely on our armed force, but let's rely on what we know and how we can speak out to these internet service providers 'cause they have got to stop it.